Am I Missing Something?

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I need help understanding why the Dreamers affected by DACA don’t simply apply for citizenship.  Am I missing something?  My wife was not born in the U.S. so to make sure nothing can ever happen with her status, she has gone through the proper channels and will soon be a citizen of the United States.   I have 20+ friends who are not natural born citizens who have all gone through the process and become citizens.  What am I missing here?

 

35 thoughts on “Am I Missing Something?

    • And I’m not being political or a revel-rouser, I’m truly trying to understand the issue. I can’t find anyone to explain it to me. If you apply for citizenship it solves the problem. Maybe it isn’t that easy, but it is the legal option.

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  1. They are not eligible to apply for citizenship because they arrived undocumented. They are also not legible for Green Cards (legal residency). Except for the temporary protection under DACA they are all subject to deportation. DACA is an exercise of Prosecutorial Discretion by the Executive Branch and a prioritization of toward which portions of the undocumented population ICE is directed to focus its efforts to detain and deport people, and defines a class of illegal residents granted temporary and conditional relief from that threat. In short, under current law, they have no path to either legal residency or citizenship.

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  2. What we need is first immigration reform. And second laws adhered to. Things have run amok. I have a friend whose son has married someone from Canada. They have gone through the process for at least eight years and spent thousands of dollars. And she still is not a citizen. I don’t get it either!

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  3. You are missing the cost of applications and lawyers, you are missing the length of time it takes ( which a lot of people don’t have), the confusion of the application process which confuses some lawyers as well, the limits on immigration to each country and the chance of the DACA children’s parents being exposed and deported for filing applications because they are sent back when that happens leaving the children stranded.

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    • None of that applies to them. Because they entered illegally they don’t have the option to apply for citizenship. That’s why Obama created DACA to protect them until we figure out how to handle their situation.

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      • So, wouldn’t it make sense to protect them instead of sending them to a country they don’t know? Yes, truly the citizenship process isn’t very easy even when you do go through proper channels depending on what country you are coming from, it is not balanced at all.

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      • I think a reasonable option would be to give them special exemption to file for citizenship and protection while they do. The option of continuing to be here illegally shouldn’t remain, but they should be given the citizenship option.

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      • If you are running for the life, or that of your family, I think you that your opinion might be different. And unfortunately living in an immigrant full city like New York, you do get to hear horror stories about the situation.

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      • You still have to obey the laws of all countries. If I entered Canada right now illegally there would be consequences and they wouldn’t care if I was afraid of Donald Trump. You must be legal.

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      • That’s not running for your life, and they have thousands from this country as we speak seeking asylum since Donald Trump has taken office. I’m talking jail terms, starvation and genocide. Not being uncomfortable with an incompetent leader.

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      • Laws, just like the people who make them are imperfect and should be regularly put under scrutiny for common sense. These laws have not been. The US really doesn’t have the greatest track record for how they’ve treated immigrants in the past and these laws don’t reflect that they have learned from those really important lessons.

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      • This is where we will disagree. The United States is the pinnacle of inclusion for immigrants. This country is 95% all immigrants. You are an immigrant. I’m an immigrant. Unless you are Native American, you are an immigrant.

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      • And it is easy to talk about immigration like we are here, but it is not easy when you are responsible for the system of controlling immigration. President Obama said on many occasions that we simply cannot allow everyone in, but coming up with a good process is extremely difficult. He also stated on many occasions that you can’t be here illegally.

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  4. I don’t want to get too political, but… Congress (and all the recent presidents) have been “debating” and “studying” immigration reform for decades, coming up with (as usual) zilch. DACA was intended as a ‘temporary’ stop-gap measure until these jackasses could come together and pass reform laws – which (as usual) has never happened. That’s yet another reason I’m fed up with the ‘two parties that do nothing’ establishment system. I know from previous posts you feel the same way about the two-party ineptitude, Dan.

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  5. Since DACA kids entered the US illegally, they’re not eligible to seek citizenship or permanent residency through the “proper channels”. I feel for those kids, because although they didn’t choose to be brought up in the US as illegal aliens, that’s exactly what happened. They grew up as Americans (many of them believed they were), but according to the law they’re not. If they get deported, they’ll get sent back to a country that’s completely alien to them. They’ll be foreigners in the country they were born in, and they’re illegal aliens in the country they call home. It’s an unfair situation, they were dealt the worst set of cards. But I firmly believe the only reason they’re not already in a path to citizenship is politics. Can you imagine waiting for a bunch of politicians to decide your fate? Must be hell.

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